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Oral History of Barbara Taylor An Interview Conducted by Karen Schank January 9, 2011 Nevada State College Undergraduate Oral History Project Produced by: Nevada State College Undergraduate Oral History Project Department of History, Nevada State College 89002 Directors: Peter La Chapelle, Ph.D. and Kate Hahn Project Manager: Melissa S. Stoner Project Assistants: Noelle Cruz Any element within, including without limitation, text, logos, graphics, images, photographs, multimedia features, or o ther likeness or including materials may be republished, reposted, retransmitted, or redistributed without the prior consent of Nevada State College. Nevada State College and Nevada State College Libraries requests acknowledgement whether the use is oral, web or in print. Commercial use of any portion in this material requires permission. For further information please contact Nevada State College Library: http://nsc.edu/2744.asp
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Barbara Taylor 1 of 42 The recorded interview and t ranscript have been made possible with the support of the Nevada State Library and Archives and the generosity of the Institute of Museum and Library Services through the Library Services and Technology Act (LSTA). The collaboration between the Nevada Stat e College department of Humanities and the Library provided a unique opportunity for undergraduate students and project staff to work together with community members from the City of Henderson to acquire a series of first person narratives. The transcript received minimal editing to preserve the conversational style and content of the narrator. This interview is from the series Bridging the Past: Henderson through Oral History.
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Barbara Taylor 2 of 42 Oral History of Barbara Taylor An Interview done by Karen Schank on January 9, 2011 Biography Barbara Taylor was born in Reno, Nevada on March 7, 1933. She grew up in Minden Valley, Nevada, and spent time delivering butter with her dad for the Minden Butter Company and playing amily moved to Las Vegas in 1943, when she was 10. Although she was initially not fond of the move to Las Vegas, she has fond memories of some aspects of growing up in the Las Vegas and Henderson area. Her mother taught fourth and fourth grade students for 30 years West Side Elementary, a largely African American school. Taylor and her mother were members of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People ( NAACP ) Taylor moved into Victory Village in Henderson after her marriage. She worked for the Arrowhead Freight Company and Trans World Airlines ( TWA ) Through her job at TWA, she was able to watch an atom bomb go off. However, she also knew people who were possibly affected by the radiation from the testing and later developed cancer.
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Barbara Taylor 3 of 42 Narrator: Barbara Taylor Interviewer : Karen Schank Interview Date: January 9, 2011 Location: Provo, Utah Karen Schank : 9, 2011 and Barbara could you state your name Barbara Ta ylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Okay. Barbara Taylor. T A Y L O R. Karen Schank : Thank you. When and where were you born? Barbara Taylor: e living my folks were living in Minden but there was no hospital any closer than Reno. Karen Schank : Oh. What did your parents do in Minden? Barbara Taylor: My dad was an accountant for the Minden Butter Company in Minden. Karen Schank : Huh huh. Ba rbara Taylor: And my mom she was she had taught until they got married but those days Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: So. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yes. Karen Schank : The rest riction. Barbara Taylor: Yeah, yeah, in fact in Minden one of the teachers ditched off and got married and nobody ever knew she, took her husband like Reno or some place on the weekends. Karen Schank : Huh huh. Barbara Taylor: be mar ried. Karen Schank : Oh, I wonder why.
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Barbara Taylor 4 of 42 Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Okay. Do you have memories as a child of living there? Barbara Taylor: Oh yes, I was 10 before I left. So and I was very upset because I really loved that Minden Valle y. It had everything I wanted. It was our school, in fact, it was just one of those schools where the 1 st and 2 nd grade, it was only four rooms so you paired up and a lot of the kids came in from the ranches in Minden. It was all surrounded by ranches and so there were only a few of us that lived in town so I took the 1 st and 2 nd grade in one year. I just followed the teacher back and forth so that put me a year younger than everybody the rest of my life. So. Karen Schank : Hm. Barbara Taylor: But lots o f good memories because it was small. We knew everybody. We loved we just a lot of fun things. In the middle of the park in Minden is a Karen Schank : Stands. Barbara Taylor: park and it was just a really wonderful way to grow up and I totally resented moving to Las Vegas. It was not my idea. We lived close enough area with the Minden Bu tter Company went clear up to Lake Tahoe and dad to deliver butter to the different places and my grandparents lived in cared the liver out of me. Always thought if I leaned out the window the car would tip over. It was a switchback shortcut to Virginia City coming out of Carson so. Karen Schank : A mountain or a ridge? Barbara Taylor: in the mountains and we were in the valley so you had just do the switchback thing so you could see the road all the way down. Several times. Their home has been turned into a National, ause it Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Your grandfather was a pharmacist? Barbara Taylor: No they bought it from the pharmacist. Karen Schank : Oh.
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Barbara Taylor 5 of 42 Barbara Taylor: Because the house had belonged to the pharmacist the government came in Karen Schank : Historical. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Ta ylor: Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: my dad was raised. Karen Schank : What did your grandfather do? Barbara Taylor: He owned he was a actually went to the University of Nevada and took courses in mechanical engineering. I saw something yet but he did mechanical engineering for the mines. He invented a lot of the ne so he had a store on the main street and owned several pieces of property. Karen Schank : Is that Comstock? Barbara Taylor: Yeah, well not it was all the mines. In other words there were a lot of mines he just had the store and then he would sell to t Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: more than a hardware store. It did big stuff. Big tools and stuff for the mines. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: So he did ve Karen Schank : Oh wow. Did your father tell you about that? Barbara Taylor: No I read I found it in the newspaper. Karen Schank : Oh.
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Barbara Taylor 6 of 42 Barbara Taylor: bout it but if you go in the newspapers they have the articles and my last name was very interesting. Our last name, my dad s was Sexsmith S E X S M I T H. Which is an I have to do is put that name in and every place it shows up in the newspaper so I pulled all these the hundreds of articles up and there was one talking about him getting the car and everything and that, oh, cause I had d the relevance Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: I was older. I was the oldest of the three girls and so I remember my grandmothe r and grandfather and I was the oldest cousin the whole thing so I remember much more than my siblings do. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Or even my cousins being up there and sliding down the hills in the snow and enjoying my grandmother and gr andfather who were wonderful people. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: it. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: It was the Minden Butter Company. I think it was a co Karen Schank : Mm. Barbara Taylor : Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Did all the bookwork for them. Karen Schank : Oh. Okay.
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Barbara Taylor 7 of 42 Barbara Taylor: So we lived there until I was 10. Karen Schank : Uh that park with the grandstand. Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Bandstand. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: I say the town was probably five blocks. Yeah very small town. It was just two blocks from us. One block. There was a block that separated our house from the park. Everybody some of these movies, you know, of th to a couple movies before I was 10 fun. We did fun things. We played with each other. We it was so much di fferent than now. We were inventive you know. Climb trees. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: You know. Just did stuff. The kids would bring their horses in from the ranch. That was always fun because there would be certain days at school the kids could bring the horses in from the ranch and we get to ride. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: So. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: So it was fun. It was a good atmosphere. A good ch ildhood. I enjoyed it. Karen Schank : Tell me about moving to Las Vegas? Barbara Taylor: That was a di s a was pretty head strong because I learned to play the saxophone at the time. I was a street sax so it was C Sax so i t looked like a clarinet but it was a saxophone because my uncle had it and he gave it to me. So I learned to play it when I was 6 and
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Barbara Taylor 8 of 42 played in the band Karen Schank : Tell me about the band. Barbara Taylor: Yeah. That was fun. My sister, my younger sister was the majorette and I played the I say the saxophone and it was just wonderful. Just almost Karen Schank : As a community? Barbara Taylor: band. Karen Schank : Oh kids band. Barbara Taylor: go to Reno and play, you know, march in the parades and that was good. So I taught. His sister went act ually was a fantastic pianist. She was sent to the big music school piano and cut his own records yet the 78h, the wax. He could have it sitting there and it would cut the records and he play ed it and then take the little thing and wipe off the wax as it came. So we enjoyed music and the family. Karen Schank : Explain the wax. Barbara Taylor: Well I guess as it cut the wax the record the wax as you cut it, it would roll up the part Karen Schank : Oh yeah. The black I only know the black ones so. Barbara Taylor: It was big black record but it was wax. So when he cut it, it would cut through the wax and make the sound. Karen Schank : Incredible. Barbara Taylor: Incredible. Karen Schank : Wow. Okay. Super. Who was your band teacher? Barbara Taylor: Karen Sc hank : Oh. Okay. Barbara Taylor: My names are bad.
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Barbara Taylor 9 of 42 Karen Schank : No problem. But he was a teacher at the school? Barbara Taylor: Yes at the school. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Okay. Karen Schank : Yo Barbara Taylor: So when we moved we moved to the Biltmore Addition in 1943, I was 10. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: The biggest blow was I think the reason I resented it the most is cause you got your skis when you were 10 and I waited. It seemed like I was never going to be 10 years old to get my skis, which I got in March. We moved in June. I never got to use my skis. Had to give them away. I think that was what was really a low. We moved to Biltmore Addition. My aunt and uncle lived t here and he was in the Navy up in Farragut or some place so we stayed with my aunt who had three children younger than we were. Her oldest girl was the same as age as my youngest sister so, they went down from there. It was during the War and it was pretty hectic. That was pretty wild time. There was a man named Eddie Pizinger P I Z I N G E R that had a car lot and his family he lived across the street with Marie, his daughter, who was the ld time. older than I was only 10 but I never was really 10. They left me in charge of ten kids all the time. Karen Schank : Hm. Barbara Taylor: I never really had, once I got to M inden once I got to Las Vegas childhood was over with. We learned to swim at the Biltmore Hotel, which was part of that little sub division. The sub where we used to walk down to the old ranch because you c ould just go down the street and you go right through the desert right over to the pool, across 5 th thoroughfare or anything. So that summer, cause we got there in June, that su mmer we were there every day much to the dismay of my poor hair. I had hair that went clear down to my waist or longer and they braided it and then really heavy and thick but by the Karen Schank : Oh.
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Barbara Taylor 10 of 42 Barbara Taylor: so hot that the asphalt would come up between your toes, you know walking. Oh man. Las Vegas was hot but you know. We slept outside. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: As soon as we got there they already started it. The way it went was as soon as school was out you got to sleep outside till school started caus e all we had were swamp coolers. We just loved it because it was so beautiful to look at the sky now because the out there was baby sit. Take care of the brother I had no brothers but the sisters and the nephews and nieces and everybody and so I made some friends in school. moved to Huntridge but my aunt still lived there. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Now after that and actually before that from the age of 6 only that one year did I stay in Las Vegas for the summer. My grandmo ther and grandfather, my when I was, lived in Minden they would take me to the bus station up in Reno and I would go Karen Schank : Cool. Barbara Taylor: stay with them all summer. I did that until I was 12 except for the 1943 when we went to Las Vegas and spent that summer at the Old Ranch swimming pool every day Every day Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : cross talking ] Barbara Taylor: We were all there yeah. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Yeah so we all slept outside and there was a neighbor next door that had a daughter my age and then thi s girl across the street and then it was a boy Karen Schank : Sleeping outside. Barbara Taylor: Sleeping outside.
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Barbara Taylor 11 of 42 Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: My grandma made us all kinds of quilts. Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: anywhere. I mean we had no fear of anything. You never locked your doors. You left your keys in your car. I mean it was that kind of atmosphere. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: chemicals stuff, they needed in the war so. Karen Schank : You moved there during the war. Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: 1943. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Mostly really the only thing was rationing and having Air Force everywhere. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: So there were all the people on that street drank a lot and they were always bringing the servicemen home including my aunt, everybody brought the serviceman home f Karen Schank : Was that to feed them? Barbara Taylor: anything to do. Karen Schank : Oh.
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Barbara Taylor 12 of 42 Barbara Taylor: You know. My mother we had to keep our windows dark and stuff like that you know. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: -Karen Schank : Black out drapes. Barbara Taylor: do that and then but really as a child I was not aware of the war that much. I had three children and because of he was an acc Henderson at the Stauffer Chemical as their accountant. Karen Schank : What year was that? Barbara Taylor: When we moved there. Karen Schank : Oh in 4 3. Barbara Taylor: we never saw him because there were no accountants in Las Vegas except for my dad and Don Ashworth and between the two of them they kept books for all the little companies and everythi ng on the side. So. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: how worked but he had to stay there so I I never seen any document. This is get drafted and that he had to work at Henderson. Karen Schank : Did he sleep in Henderson? Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Back and f orth. Barbara Taylor: Yeah my mother, actually, she had to go out and teach. Finally it got so bad they had brought all these people in and it was like a tent city and all these high school kids. My mother always just taught grade school but they said he y that happened she got her license renewed and she taught for 30 years in West side. Karen Schank : Oh.
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Barbara Taylor 13 of 42 Barbara Taylor: She taught the Black children in West Side for 30 years after the war. Karen Schank : Oh. At what school was that? Barbara Taylor: West Side Elementary huh. Karen Schank : Elementary school? Barbara Taylor: th grade that were coming in on the dam and stuff like that. Big tall kids in t he 4 th grade that said they were in the 4 th grade, Karen Schank : Huh. Barbara Taylor: them to her in the 4 th th g rade and they we were ready for the 6 th grade by that time. They loved her. Absolutely adored my mother. She and I both belonged to the NAACP. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. Karen Schank : Now you mentioned she was drafted the same as y Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: so she did. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: They knew everybody that had had a teaching degree or whatever because Karen Schank : So was it more come and teach for us Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: just put the force on her you know. We have to and it was double sessions. It was crazy. Karen Schank : What does that mean? Double sessions.
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Barbara Taylor 14 of 42 Barbara Taylor: They meet at morning and at night, in the afternoon. They had that many kids out there. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: You ought to read that history, Henderson. It was wild. Karen Schank : Wow. Yeah. Barbara Taylor: Yeah it was. It was crazy. Now I lived in Henderson, down, down. I lived in Henderson after Karen Schank : Oh did you. Barbara Taylor: Which was another experience. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: in a crack on one side, sidewalk, four units on the other side and it just up and up. You had kerosene stoves, which you lit the kerosene and cranked the thing up and down to get how hot you wanted it. No washer. No dryer. No Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: when I got married I was only 16 Angeles. My husband had been in the war. He was a loc al boy, Robert, his pregnant with my oldest son and when we came back for Christmas, cause I was working down there and he was working and going to school and when no way we could live down there. We were making government $52.50 a baby so he had been in the Navy, the Army, in the Air Force. H e was in the Army when they took part of 9,000 out of the Army and made them Air Force. He was one of the 9,000 so anyway. He had a lot of points, which Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: Village. So that was in 1951 and so I was living in no 1950 we moved there
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Barbara Taylor 15 of 42 pictures of my husband washing the diapers out, boiling them on the stove, washing them on our washboard. Karen Schank : In the sink. Barbara Taylor: I had $35.00 in the savings account. I went to Sears Roebuck this. I went Sears Roebuck a nd got one of those ringer washers. Bought it on time. It was the first thing we did on time. Later we got a home in Henderson. was just when they built the homes there, there was n othing and my father in law thought he was doing a wonderful thing for us, put the down payment on the house but it was square concrete house. Nothing. No floors. dryer, stove, refri had to [inaudible ] I went to work at Arrowhead Freight Lines in North Las We did get married again after a year after b eing divorced a year. We got married again. Had two more children and finally decided we were best way. Best friends. We realized that not necessarily can best friends be married once, why are we living like this. You and dad are such good friends and then he had to live with him once and he called me up and he said okay. [inaudible ] two years. We were so differen Karen Schank : Where did you move to once you moved out of Victory Village? Barbara Taylor: Once I moved out I moved into Las Vegas on 25 th Street, way down before there was anything in Las Vegas. These people that I knew had a little, a little cottage and I took the two kids that I had then and moved down there and I was working for the freight company. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Ta ylor: I got married when I got out of high school but I learned and was able to support them and then I went to Karen Schank : What did you do for the freight company? Barbara Taylor: I was an accounta Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Bookkeeper.
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Barbara Taylor 16 of 42 Karen Schank : Cool. Barbara Taylor: went t o work for TWA. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: I worked for them for several years. Karen Schank : As an accountant? [00:27:21 overtalking] Barbara Taylor: No. As a res agent, reservations agent. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: They had thei r building and Las Vegas was right across the street from the Karen Schank : Mm. Barbara Taylor: It was interesting because you checked all yo ur reservations were made on the phone and you hand wrote them on a recipe card with their name and all their flights and then when the flight would leave if they had continuing like if they were going to Chicago and then New York you got on the teletype a nd typed the rest of their information onto the teletype and that would go to card for them. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: was very hectic because that was the time of the atom bomb going off. So they would set a time that the bomb was going to go off and all these people would come from all over us, not me thank goodness but my sister and lots of people I know got cancer. have to take all those people and change all their reservations everyday. The crazy thing was because I worked for TWA that made be a big shot and so I out in there and watched the bomb go off. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor:
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Barbara Taylor 17 of 42 Vegas High School, ou of cancer. Karen Schank : Mm. Barbara Taylor: actually it was so bad up through there that when my nephew died my cousin died, it was because it was an already settled lawsuit they Nevada and parts of Utah suffered for the atom b omb a lot. Karen Schank : Mm. Barbara Taylor: In fact I remember, I was working for Arrowhead Freight Company when that first bomb went off. Holy cow. You could hear it coming like a wave. they Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: just the glass window with their display and then the store because of the heat grandmother, it took the like it tried to shove the door out of the thing so her casement on her door cost them a lot of money. I mean there was a ton, a ton, a ton of people with damage. But then we thought it was funny because as going to go off and you were to open doors and stuff so when the air when it came through it could get out. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: We had no idea what it was doing to us. Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: You know. It w as just life. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: On Freemont Street. Karen Schank : Freemont Street? Barbara Taylor: th and Freemont.
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Barbara Taylor 18 of 42 Karen Schank : And 5 th became La s Vegas Boulevard is that right? Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Yeah, yeah. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: Yeah I worked there when I got into high school. Actually I wor ked at Sprouses and then I worked there. I started working when I was 13 schools, one on 5 th street and one in Huntridge. We had moved to Huntridge a year younger so I lied. I told them I was a year older and everything I did. My social security, everything I did I the thought of being a year younger than everybody. Ka ren Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: I finally changed that when I was about 23. I thought bah, probably ought to. er am I supposed to say 32 or 33? That was so I did everything. So I worked early. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: supposed to go work till you were 14 and I started working at Spouses when I was 13. Karen Schank : Uh huh. What did you do for them? Barbara Taylor: Just work selling, stocking Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: everything. Karen Schank : Tell me about the Huntridge. Living in the Huntridge Village Barbara Taylor: Huntridge area? Karen Schank :
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Barbara Taylor 19 of 42 Barbara Taylor: I went to Huntridge and then for just a period we had to move back into my aunts house and so for half a year we went to 5 th Street and then we got another the house that we lived in then, my folks lived in for a long time right by the terrible. Her name was Ruby Thomas. She was a principa th Street than ev was having trouble with his eyesight, and I said Mr. Kanusent I will come in th Street. So I walked across the des desert to 5 th Street school, because there was nothing there but desert. Karen Schank : How far is that? Barbara Taylor: th Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: I mean winter, summers, you know. I loved it and I was in the first section all the time. I had good friends. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Well, in the grade school they had you by sections. There were five sections in each grade and my grades were good so I was in the first section. Her name was Miss Dilworth [PH] and in doing research on my dad her dad taught my dad in the school in Virginia City. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: I thought that was interesting. Interv iewee: That is.
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Barbara Taylor 20 of 42 Barbara Taylor: skin. I never thought about. Karen Schank : Huh huh. Barbara Taylor: N ever dawned on me that anybody was different cause we were raised that way. So I had Mexican boyfriends and Japanese boyfriend you know, it it was ridiculous. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: As I got older and realized that the people maki ng the big difference out of it, it irritated me. Quite a bit. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: I joined the NAACP with my mom and I have a picture of Bill and I before we were married and Hank Greenspun and Wendell Waite, we were the only four Wh ite people in the parade when Martin Luther King died. When he died they had a mock funeral at the same time all over the United States in a Black church and then we marched from West Side all the way up down Freemont Street. In the picture you can see me looking up because they had rifleman on the roofs of the on Freemont Street. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Bill was their mayor then. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: It really bothered me. One of things way back when I w as working with the freight company I had a woman and husband that ran it, her name was Lorraine Wells, and we just became really good friends even though she was, I guess 10 years older than I was, our friendship lasted wayward of Maui and until she died. ..her she liked Nat King Cole. She had known him in Sweet Lorraine. So it was going to be her bir thday and he was at the Rancho, El Rancho Hotel so I called up there to talk to see to talk to him and he anywhere else. So when I met with him I found out he had to live in a trailer in the parking lot. Karen Schank : Of El Rancho? Barbara Taylor: hotel.
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Barbara Taylor 21 of 42 Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: That made me so mad but he was really fun to meet and he just at that point the floor where you ate and the dining and the floor was all one, you know there was no stage or anything and so he really did it good. She was so excited. He such a nice man. He was really a wonderful man. I never got over that. It irritated me so bad I just wanted to take them on. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yes. Karen Schank : the old ranch? Horse racing. Barbara Taylor: foggy as to whether they raced there or up at Cashman Field, what was just Karen Schank : I know the ranch had a horse race Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Cashman Field. Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barb ara Taylor: was all like desert up above, you know up to about 2 nd Street or whatever God, the bulls. Karen Sc hank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: I remember my nephew who was I mean my cousin who was probably 2 or 3, got off and they found him sitting with his feet to the inside of that fence th called Cashman Field then.. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: illac dealer and had a lot of
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Barbara Taylor 22 of 42 Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Interviewee: Barbara Taylor: That was El Dorado time. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Tayl or: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : They had a horse race during that period? Barbara Ta ylor: I think so. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: I only went to the rodeos but my aunt was racing a had a horse she was Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: I was never aware there was a fort. I was not a member of the Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: But my mother went to The University of Nevada instead of BYU where my grandmother had gone and met my dad there and he was Catholic. Although not really going. My grandmother, you know it was the grandmothers that wanted to get married by the priest so they had to sign us that anymore. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: But in order for my mother to get married by a priest she had to take lessons and sign over the fact that the children would be raised Catholic.
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Barbara Taylor 23 of 42 Karen Schank : Mm. Barbara Taylor: S o the three of us were raised Catholic. I think I was my sister joined my youngest sister joined in high school. My next sister, the one just younger joined until after I did. Well I t hink I was 23. [00:42:21 overtalking] couple of kids. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: But the basic rel Karen Schank : What did they think of your switching? Barbara Taylor: just razed me a little bit. But it was good for me. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Never saw it. Okay. Barbara Taylor: know that because man, all we were doing is swimming in that great swimming pool. That was a neat swimming pool. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Oh yeah it was there. Yeah. Karen Schank : Ok ay. Did you know that people lived in it? Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank :
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Barbara Taylor 24 of 42 Barbara Taylor: they were. Do you know who they were? Karen Scha nk : Barbara Taylor: See now I know that name. Karen Schank : Do you? Barbara Taylor: Oh yeah sure because you know since I joined the church and was in Las ng in Karen Schank : Right. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: So it must have been the people that were living in the house that kind o f Karen Schank : Right. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: I know there was always people at the in charge. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: So the probably lived there. Karen Schank : Did you know about the cabins that were there? Barbara Taylor: Nuh uh. Karen Schank : Okay. Could you kind Barbara Taylor: It was just Karen Schank : Uh huh.
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Barbara Taylor 25 of 42 Barbara Taylor: swim, are you kidding. In Las Vegas in Minden the only place you went was Lake 00:44:27] a lake and it was freezing cold. So my first experience of a pool was the little teeny weenie pool at the Biltmore Hotel. So this was a nice pool. It seemed to me that it had a diving board that we used jump off of. I think it d Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: You know concrete around it. Fence around it. We thought we were it was cool man. This is a real pool. It was fun because it was so hot in Las Vegas and I loved t he water. I always loved the water. I just spent my life in that Karen Schank : Mm. Barbara Taylor: So we al l just dog paddled and next thing you know we were swimming and Old Ranch. Karen Schank : Let see. Barbara Taylor: Dad? Unidentified Male: What. Barbara Taylor: Unidentified Male: What do you want? Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Henderson plant. Barbara Taylor: Yeah Stauffer Chemical. Karen Schank : Yes. You mentioned he worked long hours and your mother worked long Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Well, we never t he youngest was 13. So we pretty well knew what we had to do and we did it.
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Barbara Taylor 26 of 42 Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: y getting into trouble much because everybody knew what they were supposed to do. The house, Biltmore, there was all kinds of people there. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: My aunt was always home. She never worked. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Ok ay. How long did your father work for Stauffer? Barbara Taylor: Until the war was over and then he just like he he kept books for the review journal and all just kept books all over town. Then he went to e went to work in one of Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Mm Barbara Taylor: So. He had to figure odds and stuff t here anyway he did that for years. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : 45? Barbara Taylor: Probably 45, 46. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: When they pulled out of there. Karen Schank : O
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Barbara Taylor 27 of 42 Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Oh okay. It was secrets. It was secrets? Barbara Taylor: Well yeah it was it was something to do Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yeah, they never Karen Schank : Was he ever concerned about his safety working at the plant. Barbara Taylor: No. Nuh uh. Karen Schank : Okay. So did they own their own car? Barbara Taylor: Oh yeah. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: he had to drive out there and so did mother. Karen Schank : property near the University Medical Center. Barbara Taylor: spital on Charleston. Karen Schank : Clark County. Okay. Barbara Taylor: Right across the street. Had two acres. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Palomino that was well th ey called him Klondike because it looked like gold. She was always head of the parade and she actually was one of the Karen Schank : W hat was her name?
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Barbara Taylor 28 of 42 Barbara Taylor: Her name was Eva. Karen Schank : Eva? Barbara Taylor: Eva Roberts. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: No. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: No it was just the front acre was the ho use. It was a big long ranch type thing and then he back was just the corrals for the horses. Karen Schank : Where did they get their water from on that property. Barbara Taylor: Ka ren Schank : What year was it that they had that home? Barbara Taylor: when they got there but they were there by the time I knew Katherine, which was in high school which would have b Karen Schank : 46 okay. When did they sell it? Barbara Taylor: I think they sold it while we were on Maui and moved up on a and moved not sure what year. Tommy died, my father in law died, lets to see, maybe not. Nope, Eva must of sold the house. Yeah. Okay they were have sold the house. I was trying to remember when she sold it. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: street from the hospital. And Karen Schank : Oh okay. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank :
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Barbara Taylor 29 of 42 Barbara Taylor: down the street. She had to lose that house have to sell that house. Karen Schank : _____[00:52:12] Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Go ahead. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : The ho Barbara Taylor: Rancho in 1969 and it was horrible. He was a straight A student. Had never had anything but an A and we had no money. I was divorced for seven years actually and so when they were having the riots. Karen Schank : Tell me about that. Barbara Taylor: in from L.A. and it was like having West Side and taking them to these stuff in the schools and Phil never had any prejudice but that year he said y ou them. He was the Student Body President so he kept having to leave class to you know to be quite upset with this. My dau ghter on the other hand, oh my Karen Schank : Mm at Rancho? Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : The school?
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Barbara Taylor 30 of 42 Barbara Taylor: Oh yeah it was a discontent. The whole time it was a discontent. It was because they let these people they brought these people in from L.A. to cause a discontent. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: They were older. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: amped up these kids hard time raising my daughter in that environment. Oh, cause she drove me h me my problem was I worked two full time jobs and raised those four kids. Karen Schank : Wow. How did you do that? Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : What was you Barbara Taylor: My day? Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen S chank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: One thing that was interesting that it was a blessing I never had to tell my kids to do their homework. I never realized what a blessing that was. Cause it just never h appened. They did their homework. They were good students. Of course the two little ones but Phil [PH] and Cheryl were the ones Phil [PH] was always the Student Body President or the Class President or
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Barbara Taylor 31 of 42 iends she chose. Her schoolwork was fine but she was brilliant, bored more than anything and she just chose not as good of friends as I would of like her to have had. We worked it out and I just well I was working for Bill then, I was his Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor : E a week I stayed up all night making payroll. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: For a construction c ompany. Karen Schank : Mm. What was the construction company? Barbara Taylor: It was a steel company. Bill Steel Company. Karen Schank : Bill Steel Company. Barbara Taylor: That was the steel company. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: I started working at Taylor Construction Taylor Steel Company which was his brothers and he was kind of a partner with him and then Bill got a chance to start h is own on Losee Road. He bought the property on Lo s Karen Schank : This is Bill Taylor your h usband? Barbara Taylor: M hmm. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Losee Road did you were you aware of the McCall Ranch? Barbara Taylor: Mm hmm. Karen Schank : Tell me about that.
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Barbara Taylor 32 of 42 Barbara Taylor: at I knew it was there. Oh yeah. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: were like a blah. Like a blur. Karen Scha nk : Oh. Barbara Taylor: just opportunity to get in the community, work in the school or anything like I would have wanted to do that I I did before when we came here. The racial thing was really bad. I just remember it just being ter rible. I worried for the kids. I worried for my kids. I think I worried more for Cheryl than anybody Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: had knives and stuff you know. Karen Schank : Right. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : If a riot happened was there a school policy? Barbara Taylor: his and of course Phil [PH] would get taken out of class and he had to try to get the
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Barbara Taylor 33 of 42 Karen Schank : Oh he was the mediator? Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Tayl or: went to school there was only Las Vegas High School and two grade schools. --then after Karen Schank : Western? Barbara Taylor: Western, not Western maybe it was Western. Karen Schank : Was it? On Bonanza? Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : [00:59:41 overtaking] Barbara Taylor: cause second but I think it might have Western. Karen Schank : Okay. Barbara Taylor: It might have been the other school that started after Rancho. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: I think that had gotten started before Phil [PH] got out in 69. We all lived through it. Still I love Las Vegas. Then after we went away to Hawaii for 15 years and came back it was no I mean it was so dif ferent. Karen Schank : What year did you go away to Hawaii? Barbara Taylor: Bill and I got married in 68 and we moved to Maui in 69 and took the two youngest kids with us. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: My youngest, his were grown and we were there 15 years. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: In that 15 years my daughter Cheryl, who was the second child, who I had
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Barbara Taylor 34 of 42 Hawaii married to local boys, wonderful men, wonderful women, gr eat kids. BYU. Karen Schank : Hawaii? Barbara Taylor: No here. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: uated from BYU. Karen Schank : She lived with their with you? Oh. Barbara Taylor: Uh huh. Karen Schank : How was that? Barbara Taylor: That was great. Karen Schank : _____[01:01:11] Barbara Taylor: go over there but th worst school system in the United States. Karen Schank : Hawaii? Barbara Taylor: Hawaii. Karen Schank : Oh. This is new. Barbara Taylor: our construction company, which was doing great. Daddy was old enough we just said, t ook _____[01:01:45] when he was a freshman. Been in this house since 1984. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: 85. 84 we _____[01:01:53] across the street building the house. So..but watched the Boise Nevada football game the other day. I was up in Boise and they were just wanting Boise to win so bad and I but you know what when
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Barbara Taylor 35 of 42 Nevada won, inside of me I was so happy. You know my folks graduated from that university and I was just so Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Bar bara Taylor: I love Nevada. I got a chance to go back. I met a girlfriend over there in Reno while she was doing something else with a wedding or something, I got to drive up to Virg inia City myself. I drove up and it was fun. It was fun. I Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Wow. Tell me about your husband being Mayor of Las Vegas. Barbara Taylor: O h, North Las Vegas. Karen Schank : North Las Vegas and the years Barbara Taylor: Okay. Bill was the Mayor of North Las Vegas from 1961 to 1969. When he I a gutter from a drainpipe. They had come to him, some of the people in the church and said you have got to run for mayor. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: What was his name? Oh my goodness. Harkey [PH], Hartkey [PH]. Karen Schank : Harkey [PH] Barbara Taylor: Harkey [PH]. Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: tromped the gu y. Then he ran another term and did it again. He built he for nothing got the land that Karen Schank : Which building?
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Barbara Taylor 36 of 42 Barbara Taylor: City Hall. The new City Hall. The City Hall was a little tiny thing on the co rner on Lake Mead. It had a courtroom. Bill had an office. Attorney was right here and that was it. The courtroom was the to court they were going to council meetings. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: yway all kind of idea it worked but anyway because of his the way Bill was. He was able to get the man who owned the property and remind him of something he had told ill got the land for the city and then resold it to the developer on a stipulation that City Hall will get that land and that the road that was dividing them be curved Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor : Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: So he just applied. Sometimes he was the only in Nevada that ever applied for it so he got it all. The library was built with money. Lady Bird Johnson was in and she believed in beautify America. So a lot of the stuff we got was lied for it. So we So he was in office for 8 years. Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: In that 8 years they put streets, sidewalks, curbs, and gutters in every single solita ry area of North Las Vegas by assessment district. Karen Schank : What is that assessment district? Barbara Taylor: They took Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: just Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: All it did was up the taxes a little bit for everybody. Now the only ones that really screamed and hollered was the renters.
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Barbara Taylor 37 of 42 Karen Schank : Ah. Barbara Taylor: But he was only supposed to have a council meeting once a month. All the time he was in every week. Karen Schank : Every week? Barbara Taylor: Every single week. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: A great counc ilman. Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Recreation? Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Tayl or: we never allowed we North Las Vegas. Karen Schank : Oh, why s that? Barbara Taylor: This guy had gone to college and realized they were taught all the injuries are so soft they cannot be doing this. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Pop Warner to be a party to those kids being hurt. They could flag football. Pop Warner they suited them up and everything you know. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: good things. A lot of good things. He flew the flag. He their truck and fly flags so when you woke up in the morning on Fourth of July or Labor Day or whoever, flags would be flying. Every flag you see in
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Barbara Taylor 38 of 42 flagpoles, flags. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: In fact he got he got they Karen Schank : Is that in Utah? Barbara Taylor: Around here in our ward yeah. Karen Schank : Oh wow. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: once. They honored him. Had him in the parade. All kinds of stuff. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : That is. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : ovement gain Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: 61 to 69. Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: a big problem racially. We had West Side, part of West side was in our city. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: e negro people, oh can say negro anymore, the Black people loved my mother. Karen Schank : Hm hmm.
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Barbara Taylor 39 of 42 Barbara Taylor: With a last name like that they never forgot her. So when Bill was campaigning and some of us were helping him and I was helping I told h im know my mom, Mable _____[01:10:13] oh, come in. So he got their vote and he was like I was. What is this? gs like that. Well there still was this contention see wanted to it was more of a Mormon thing and anything. Cause we Karen Schank : Mm. Barbara Taylor: So this guy nobody that ever wanted to give us trouble came t o the council Could I ask you a question? Do you think the Church of said then what do you care? That guys was fl and everybody started laughing and the guy it was the end of it. That was the e nd of it. Karen Schank : Yeah. Well. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Right. Barbara Taylor: Philip [PH] was going through it in the school system. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Uh Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Not in the community huh? Barbara Taylor: they brought these people in. Karen Schank : Mm.
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Barbara Taylor 4 0 of 42 Barbara Taylor: Our Blacks that lived in our town were not that w ay. Karen Schank : Mm hmm. Barbara Taylor: The people who were born and raised in Las Vegas were not that way. Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: But they brought these guys, they were Black Panthers. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: And the y deliberately brought these men in to rab arouse these high school kids and so it was pretty well of course the police and Bill, they had to do that kind of thing but we never felt it city wide. We never had citywide riots where they do a store or anythin g. It was all in the school. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: See those were the years that I was single. I never went to a restaurant. I never had any money to go to a restaurant. So I was never aware when it happened. Karen Schank : Hm Barbara Taylor: It just ha ppened. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Okay. Barbara Taylor: [PH] graduated we moved to Maui. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: I thought, listen are you kidding. You want racial preju dice, move to Maui. Karen Schank : Oh really. Barbara Taylor: If you want to know how a negro feels move to Maui.
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Barbara Taylor 41 of 42 Karen Schank : Oh Barbara Taylor: I was the wrong color. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: They treated me and my children bad. Karen Schank : Oh. Bar bara Taylor: Terribly. We were haole well be h aole is a kin to a .. Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : What is _____[01:13:37 whisper] Barbar a Taylor: It was hard. You had to sell yourself to everybody. It was really bad. Karen Schank : How did you survive there 15 years? Barbara Taylor: Barely. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: It was even the church, wh ich really irritated me. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Really made me feel bad. It was even in the church. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: make your bed you live in i Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: So my kids put up with it. My two kids, Cheryl and Wyman [PH] so it was My two youngest when they went to high school, in the four years they were over in high school they never went to the restroom once in school. Karen Schank : Oh.
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Barbara Taylor 42 of 42 Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Yeah. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: The thing my son was so worried about going because he was small at the time. He was going to sign up and I told him he could and I was crying all the time. He wan ted to go to Honolulu to this private school. He was so afraid to go to Baldwin. When my daughter, just told her, start going with a Hawaiian Phil [PH] your fine. He and his brothe rs were on the football team. I think Wyman [PH] took advantage. [01:15:19 overtalking] Barbara Taylor: we Karen Schan k : Wow. The chain? Wow. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: You know you live through it. Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: Karen Scha nk : I think that goes with the territory. Barbara Taylor: and I have had a good time together. Karen Schank : Yeah. Barbara Taylor: like he Having a boy as late as we did in life was interesting. Cause I was 38, 39, bill was 50 something. Karen Schank : Hm.
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Barbara Taylor 43 of 42 Barbara Taylor: a Hawaiian fam ily that fell in love with him from day one. From the time he was born and took care of him so I could work. I worked two full time jobs over there. Karen Schank : Oh wow. Barbara Taylor: We had ten kids, six of them on missions and in college at the sa me time. One of the jobs was keeping my books but I worked on the outside hold a job. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: care of him for nothing but we want him Fr iday night. I said kidding. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: They kept him every Friday night and it was nice. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: He lived two lives. He never talked to us about his Hawaiian lif e. He never talked to them about our life. But a man that we were building for told him, he said Billy, keep a journal. This is going to you could write a book over this Billy. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: You keep a journal. Your parents sitt ing right there promise you they will never touch that journal and I never did. But he kept it. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : How neat. Barbara Taylor: So w Karen Schank : Oh how wonderful.
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Barbara Taylor 44 of 42 Bar bara Taylor: to the stores and being treated bad you know and stuff. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: Cause I never I guess well I had to go right work as soon as I got ther e was hard. If I had Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: friends but it was hard cause every Karen Schank : Wow. Now how did Billy build this chain of restaurants? Barbara Taylor: e president. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: Runs it. Karen Schank : Barbara Taylor: 1,400 restaurants. Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: But he started out at Red Lobster. Karen Schank : Uh huh. Ba rbara Taylor: Came out of BYU with an MBA. Karen Schank : Oh did he? Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: Ended up at Red Lobster and just started right at the bottom and ended up president in stead of firing, which they usually do, they usually want Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: marketin
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Barbara Taylor 45 of 42 Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Oh. Barbara Taylor: m. They had like these headhunters that came after people. So a president that going to want Karen Schank : Uh huh. Barbara Taylor: So he went with them. He got to stay in Orlando and he was Executive Vice President of Hotel, not the hotels the restaurants and the parks, the theme parks. Karen Schank : At Un iversal Studios? Barbara Taylor: So he had 70 vice presidents under him. He had to fly around a lot because of Mag Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: So he the they wanted his marketing skills over here. So they said well, could you just maybe work with him and him what to do. Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: you know. So they put him on the Corporate Karen Schank :
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Barbara Taylor 46 of 42 Barbara Taylor: are they paying you? He said yeah but mom I want to get some my wife they were having him ring the bell in the stock market. I mean it was So then the Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: Karen Schank : Wow. Barbara Taylor: All the menus have changed. He Karen Schank : Hm hmm. Barbara Taylor: did that because [01:22:14 recording ends]
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